Episode 9

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13th Apr 2021

How to Turn Your Passion into a Podcast with Glen Moyer

Discover how to turn your passion for a rich and storied culture into a very popular podcast. Listen in for tips on creating a travel show that’s been taking its listeners on a journey for over 6 years.

Remember to join the mailing list at https://podcasttactics.com/ to keep learning how to podcast from other podcasters!

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Learn More about Glen Moyer and His Podcast, “Under the Tartan Sky”

Episode recorded on March 5, 2021

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Transcript
James:

In this episode of Podcast Tactics, you will discover how to turn

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your passion for a rich and storied culture into a very popular podcast.

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Listen in for tips on creating a travel show that's been taking its listeners

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on a journey for over six years.

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Remember to join the mailing list at PodcastTactics.com to keep learning

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how to podcast from other podcasters.

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Now let's get into it.

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Joining me right now is veteran podcaster Glenn Moyer from

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Keithville, Louisiana, Glenn.

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Thank you so much for joining me on the show.

Glen:

My pleasure and thanks for having me here.

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So let's jump right in.

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Tell us about your podcast.

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What's the name of it and what is it all

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In a word it's about Scotland.

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The name is "Under the Tartan Sky", and that actually came

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from a favorite movie of mine.

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Quick backstory under, "Under the Tuscan Sun" is a favorite movie

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of mine and there's a lot of.

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There's a lot of inferences that I can draw from that.

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"Under the Tuscan Sun" is a story of a woman who goes through a midlife change,

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travels to a foreign country, falls in love with that country, decides to make

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her home there and does, and I went through sort of a similar metamorphosis

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in my own life when I was in my I'm now 67, so four or five years ago in 2013.

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I started falling in love with Scotland through a television

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show that I was watching strangely enough and decided I would really

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like to go there and see that.

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And I have known all my life.

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I had Scottish ancestry, but I never really explored it.

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And so I started doing that, started getting involved with Scottish groups

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on Twitter and Facebook, et cetera, made that first trip to Scotland in 2014, fell

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in love with the place, started a blog.

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To keep up with my, so I'd let my friends know about my travels.

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You know, how people, friends and family, Oh, we'll post pictures.

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Tell us what you're doing and this and that.

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So I thought, well, the smartest, the easiest way to do it was a blog.

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And I really enjoyed that.

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And when I got back, I faced this conundrum that, you

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know, I really enjoyed that.

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And I wanted to continue sharing my excitement for Scotland, but

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you can't write a travel blog.

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You're not traveling to a country.

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And at that point I was not I'm.

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I didn't know that I would eventually be going back every year, which I do now,

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but, so I fell back on my broadcasting background and I thought, well, if I can't

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travel to Scotland, I can't write about it because I've run out of things to write

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about that I've experienced personally.

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I know I can talk with people.

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I've been in the media, radio and television for most of my professional.

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And I thought I can do interviews and I can talk with, you know, with Skype and

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those sorts of things we had been before as in canister and squad cast and these

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things we have now, even with Skype, I thought, well, I can interview anyone

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in Scotland about anything anytime.

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And so the blog quickly began the podcast.

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And so that's the long story.

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My apologies.

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For the story behind the name and what the podcast is all about.

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I say it's under the tartan sky.

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It's all things Scottish from bagpipes to whiskey.

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We cover it all.

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Uh, the whiskey part of I'd love to pick your brain on that part.

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But before we get into that, I want to take a few steps back here and

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talk a little bit about your, your journalism and broadcasting background.

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What capacity were you working in that field?

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Virtually everything.

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I started right as I got out of high school.

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I started studying radio, television and film in college

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and started my second year.

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I think in college, the university did not have a radio station, but

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started one that was a closed circuit broadcast strictly from the radio

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studio into the student union.

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The next year it did get a, a public broadcast, a radio station.

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So I started there as a commentator disc jockey.

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And then I went to work in the commercial market in my hometown.

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Uh, I got an internship at the local TV station, ended up being hired by them

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as a news reporter and sports anchor.

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And so through the career, then I went on and worked at a number of a

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variety of radio stations initially as a disc jockey, but I wasn't

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the best disc jockey in the world.

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And I've always had a real interest in news.

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And so, um, one of my program directors said, you know, you're not the best disc

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jockey, but we need a news department.

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So you're now the news department.

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And that got me started in radio news.

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And so I went on from there and worked throughout Texas.

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I grew up in a town called Beaumont, Texas, about 80 miles East of Houston.

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That's where I started there, moved to San Antonio and then

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eventually up to Dallas, Texas.

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And I spent about almost 20 years in the broadcast business

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in various being a reporter.

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And on an on-camera anchor being an assignments, editor, a producer,

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um, chief cook and bottle washer path done a little bit of it all and

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disc jockey and radio news as well.

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So done a little bit of everything.

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Yeah.

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I will say

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the quality of your podcast is a, uh, it seems to be a direct reflection

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of your experience in the field from the first a note of your intro music to

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hearing your, the timbre of your voice.

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From the internet.

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I was like, Whoa, okay.

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This is some high quality stuff that is going on here.

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I don't want to talk about your episode quite yet.

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The one that I listened to, you know, and you want to kind of keep

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it a little high level, but yeah.

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So your show is, it seems to be very well-researched.

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Uh, the quality of it is really high.

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You know how, you know, obviously I feel like that comes from

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your journalism background.

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Stupid question time.

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Is that true?

Glen:

It does.

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And, and that's an excellent, if not obvious, perhaps observation.

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Yeah.

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The first thing when I decided to start doing, I mean, I had played in

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podcasting in a really unusual way.

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I did a small little podcast.

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It was basically just a recorded newscast for the balloon Federation of America,

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who I also work for doing a magazine.

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And then I was hired by a online aviation news outfit.

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To be their audio podcaster.

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And I got that job because I had done these little news

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podcasts for the balloon group.

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But when I started to launch under the target and sky, what I feel is

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like my first real podcast, one of the first things I read was the listening

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experience has to be a good one.

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People don't want are not going to listen to bad audio.

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And my days in radio, you know, I've always had very high production values,

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music and music cuts I've got to, but together or our segue together, well,

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I've got to blend, you know, volume levels have to be maintained, have to

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be, excuse me, have to be, I talk with my hands, have to be consistent throughout.

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So I do pay a lot of attention to what I call production values on my show.

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I spend an inordinate amount of time, probably editing my interviews.

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I cut out lip smacks and UHS and AHS.

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And if someone says, well, that, that, that, you know, that, that

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will I'll cut all those, that, that, that that's out to just one that, so

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that the conversation flows better.

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So, yeah.

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Thank you for noticing that.

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And I, I, I appreciate that because production values are

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very, very important to me.

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Yeah.

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And I think it's because it's important to the listener.

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Yeah.

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It's definitely, you know, from a, from a technical standpoint,

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Your show is a jam like that.

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Like it's something to that I would aspire to.

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Right.

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I mean, gosh, I hope I can do right by you.

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When I put this episode together, I feel like my palms are sweaty with

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let's talk a little bit about some challenges that you hold on a second.

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Before I ask that question, how long has your podcast been around?

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Um, in June, I'll Mark my sixth anniversary.

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So I'll be doing it, have been doing it for six years come June.

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Okay.

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So over the years, I mean, you clearly are experienced

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doing this with podcasting.

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What are some of the challenges that you've encountered and how have you

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broken through those challenges?

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Well, um, I don't know that broke it through them.

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The biggest challenge that I faced to this day is consistency.

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And all these different Facebook groups that you and I are in, you

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read about people saying, well, what's the best day to release?

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Is it Wednesdays or Thursdays or, you know, and is there a certain hour of time

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and do you have to come out every week?

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Every on the same day, the same time and all that?

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I don't do any of that in part, because my show is an interview

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show and it is a hobby it's not monetized in any sense of the word.

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And I do have a daytime job.

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So my biggest challenge is scheduling guests.

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And getting the production done on a routine basis.

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And I am not good at that.

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I have not been good at that.

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I started out thinking my show would be a weekly show, then I thought,

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okay, I'll put out every other week.

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And then it became, you know, once a month.

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And then it was like, well, whenever I can get somebody out, get them.

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And really that's the way it is.

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And as a result, my listenership has always stayed fairly low.

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I've peaked at about 12,000 listeners.

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But I run on average around five to 6,000 because I'm not consistent.

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And that is my biggest fault.

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And I freely admit it.

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And I have not found a way to break through that.

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I don't, I could hire someone full time, a producer, if you will, to research

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and seek out guests and book them and schedule them and make sure that after

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I did an interview yesterday, which for an episode, I'll be releasing on Monday.

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I don't have anything else lined up after that.

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I have several guests that I've been talking with a couple that

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we've had to reschedule, but I have nothing scheduled on the books.

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And so that's, my challenge is to try and find a way to be consistent.

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And in six years of doing this, I haven't figured it out yet.

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So you are

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human.

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Very much, so very much.

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So.

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Yeah.

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Flip side of things here.

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Let's talk.

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So let's talk a little bit about what it is that you love about podcasting.

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What, where, where do you find the joy?

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Oh, well, for me one, I always enjoyed radio.

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I worked in both radio and television and, but I always loved the medium of radio.

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Uh, I love being where I am right now behind the microphone and relating to

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people, whether I can see them or not.

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I think it's easier to relate to people through audio, through

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radio than it is television.

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The camera creates a barrier that you, some people just

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never get comfortable with.

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So I enjoy that.

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The great joy for me about my podcast and what it allows me to do is that

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I can pick up the phone and, or send an email and reach out to someone.

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And I have met the most amazing people who have been my guests that I would

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never have crossed paths with, you know, in the ordinary routine of my life.

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Dougie MacLean, for example, is.

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He is, for example, sort of a James Taylor of the Scottish music world,

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grossly hugely famous singer songwriter.

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And I got an email once from a PR agency about a festival.

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He runs and I sent him an email, said, Hey, I do this little podcast.

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I'd love to have, do he thought it'll never happen?

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They said, great.

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We set it up.

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And we had such a great conversation.

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It turned out to be two hour long episodes.

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And that's just one example.

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The guy who is Andy Scott is the sculptor of the world's largest equine sculpture.

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It's a sculpture of two horses in Scotland called the Kelpies.

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And again, a friend of mine said, Hey, you ought to reach out to him.

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I found him on Facebook, send him a message.

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He said, sure.

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We had a great episode with him.

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And so I've made an, a number of my guests are people that I've

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gone on to when I've traveled to Scotland, I've met them in person

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and we've become very close friends.

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So the relationship has gone well beyond just them appearing

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one time on my podcast.

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We now.

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Or I presume lifelong friends to be.

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And so that's the joy for me is meeting those people and being able

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to share, I have a real passion for Scotland and my ancestry.

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And so being able to share, being an ambassador for an unofficial ambassador

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for the country of Scotland and all that, I find great about it and wonderful

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about it and want to tell people about the podcast gives me that platform

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on that note.

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Let's, let's jump into an episode discussion here.

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I listened to the.

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A breed apart the

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age one that I can remember.

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It's

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I believe it's the most recent one.

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Actually.

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It was the Coney.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like I said, for the qual, the research, the depth at which you are going into

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Scottish culture is absolutely wonderful.

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You know, this is how I learned something from your podcast

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about this breed of horse.

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Very fascinating.

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Your guest was wonderful as well.

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I mean, your interview style was fantastic too.

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Thank you.

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So I'm just, you know, that's my fan point moment here.

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I'm just gushing about, you know, the quality of

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your, of your shell.

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It, he says, yeah.

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Talk to me about.

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The level at which you go into researching each of your episodes,

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how, how it seems like it's a lot.

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And I want to get a sense from you.

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Is that true or how,

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how deep it may not be as much as you think it is, benefit from the fact

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that I've now been to Scotland five times.

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I have a tremendous network of friends and contacts there.

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But it is like anything else.

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And I'm trying to remember where I came across the arrows gay ponies.

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I don't recall at the moment how I initially learned about

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them, but often it's something I'll pick up on social media.

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It'll be, there'll be something on Twitter for example.

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And I'll go, Oh, well, that sounds interesting.

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And I'll start to look at it.

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I'll find.

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People talking about that subject matter and start to pick little

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facts and issues and ideas from that.

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And then I'll look for an authority type person that can

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be the interview for the podcast.

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And then I do like anyone else I Google and start to read everything

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I can find on the internet.

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Sometimes I only have a day or two to do all that research within other times

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I may have a week or so to really get.

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A little more in-depth into it.

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So this the subject matter specifically.

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Yeah.

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I'll Google and read as much online as I can.

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I've got a number of books in my library here about Scotland.

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And I'm involved with my friends there also a lot of the, the culture of the

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day to day background about Scotland and stuff that has become ingrained

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in me through my travel experiences there and my friendships there, but

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on a specific subject, I will do as much research as time allows.

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And when I started the podcast, as I said, it dawned on me that.

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Unlike when you're writing a travel blog, you have to sort of do the research

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and then impart all the information.

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Well, the nice thing about my interview show is I only really have to know

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enough to ask the right questions.

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I don't have to know the answers.

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I'm not an expert on air escape.

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Ponies are on the Kelpies are, uh, on tartan or whisky or anything else, but

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I do have to educate myself enough.

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To ask the right questions and I'm, uh, I'll give myself a Pat on the back

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that I think I do that fairly well.

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Do you

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have the secret sauce for asking the right question?

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I mean, what, you know, like help us out with that one.

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I really don't.

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I guess it comes from having been doing interviews since my college days.

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And I've always had an, an ability to a quick war story.

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I got into broadcasting.

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When I was in high school, I went to college on a debate scholarship.

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I've always done a public speaking competition.

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And so that helped me.

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I did extent what they call extemporaneous, speaking, where in

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tournaments, you go into a room and you draw five topics that you draw five

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little slip, like fortune slips of paper, each row with a different topic on it.

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And you pick which one you want to speak on.

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You have like 15 minutes to prepare a five minute speech on it.

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So I've always had this ability to assimilate information very quickly

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and to impart it very quickly.

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My strength as a.

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As a news reporter was live reporting because I'm, I have a real talent and I

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don't mean to toot my own horn, but you can put me in a situation and turn the

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microphone on and say, go and I will go.

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And I, and I have an ability to talk about what I see and what's

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happening around me and impart that information until you tell me to stop.

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I have an absolute hatred of people who say, who allowed

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dead hair in broadcasting.

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For example, you got to fill it with something, say something, fill the void.

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So, I guess my interview talent comes from just literally those years and

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years and years and years of doing it.

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I remember a post in the group that were on Facebook that talked about it and I

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printed it out and keep it here beside me somewhere about five basic questions

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to ask that like, that are great for getting, I don't ever use them, but

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I thought, you know, someday I might.

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So, no, I don't have an answer for it.

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It, I would just say it's a talent that I've developed

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over years doing interviews.

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And I couldn't tell you how I do it or why I do it or why it works, but

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it seems to work at least if people like yourself who are listening to the

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podcast are enjoying those interviews, then that tells me it's working.

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Yeah.

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It's interesting to hear your take on it just because it's so natural for you.

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It's so ingrained in your DNA.

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Yeah.

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It's like public speaking.

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A lot of people, you know, are scared to death of public speaking.

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Well, I've been in my role in ballooning event, announcer at

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balloon festivals all around.

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I've been the voice of the Albuquerque balloon for 30 something years.

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Now, putting me in front of a crowd of people and say, talk is no big deal, but

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some people go, you know, stage fright and they'd get dry mouth and can't say a word.

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So it's all about talent.

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Now ask me to draw something.

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It ain't going to happen.

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I can't draw stick people, you know, so drawing is not my talent

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talking apparently is it's good.

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I got into Hunter and cause I guess I'm full of hot air.

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I want to just go a little bit further on the conversational

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or the talking part of it too, because I feel like something.

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That is that you're not really saying too in your style, is that listening

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part, you know, the, the being able to listen to your guests and respond to

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the conversation that you're having, you know, respond to what they're sharing with

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you, you know, you don't, I'm assuming you don't go in with a script or maybe

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you do, you have some guard rails up, but you know, the conversation really

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dictates the direction of the interview.

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Is that a fair assessment there?

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It is, and you're right.

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I don't go in with a script.

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I do go in with a bullet points or actually I generally start

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each interview for the podcast with a list of like 10 questions.

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Okay.

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That I have pre written for myself.

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Um, so that there are high points that I want to be sure

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that I cover with my guests.

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I don't always do them in the order that they're, you know, I don't go

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one, two, three, four, five, six.

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And if they answered a question, number three is something I didn't didn't think

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about, or it makes me think, you know, I'm not afraid to go off on a tangent.

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Are to explore another area and you're right.

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That's where coming into you.

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Can't just, you can't be a good interviewer just by asking questions.

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Anyone can sit down and write a list of 10 questions.

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And if all I did were to ask those 10 questions, the

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interviews will be very boring.

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You have to be able to listen and hear and comprehend and take in what.

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Your guests is what their answers are, what they're telling you.

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And that very often leads to the next question or a question you hadn't thought

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about, or it makes you change the order of the questions you had prepared.

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Question number 10 suddenly becomes relevant because of an

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answer to question number two.

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So you move it up into the order of things.

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So yeah, you have to be a good listener in order to be a good enough.

Glen:

No,

James:

I just, you know, I want to thank you.

James:

You're like, just right off the bat here, because you're.

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There's so much great advice.

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That's, I'm getting from you.

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And I hope our listeners are getting that as well.

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If you're talking to somebody who is interested in starting a podcast, or

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they're just getting underway, like I am, what is the one piece of advice

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that you would want to give to them?

Glen:

Interestingly enough.

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I just talked with a good friend who started a new podcast and was

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helping her research microphones.

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Um, I think it's, it's, it's something I learned when I first decided I wanted

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to be a writer years ago and that bit of advice was write what you know about.

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And so if you're going to do podcasting, my first advice

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is podcast about something.

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You have a passion for.

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I wouldn't be any good doing a podcast about car movies,

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because I hate horror movies.

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They scare the, you know, what out of me and I, and I won't watch them.

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Um, and so, you know, find what it is that you have a passion for either, either a

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passion because you're involved in it.

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And you know, it, you know, from a to Z or a passion like I have with Scotland, that

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it's something I want to learn more and more and more about, you know, keep, you

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know, What's the running back is equal.

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Emma says, you know, Phoebe, you know, just keep feeding me.

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I'm kind of that way about Scotland.

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So my advice is if you're going to start a podcast, find a subject that

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you are passionate about that, and that passion will be long burning.

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It can't be a flash in the pan because if it is, you'll go for a few months

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or maybe a year or two, and then you'll give up a burnout, find your

Glen:

passion and make that your podcast.

James:

So with a back catalog of yours, you know, the six years that you've

James:

been doing this, if there is one episode that you want to point somebody at

James:

what sticks out in your mind as yeah.

James:

That's the one that people should go and listen to.

Glen:

Um, well there, there are two, the one that people go to is an episode

Glen:

that I did about a lady in Scotland who makes incredible jewelry out of.

Glen:

Sea glass.

Glen:

She collects the sea glass on the beaches and then goes back.

Glen:

And a lot of people who do sea glass jewelry, just take silver wire and

Glen:

wrap it around the piece of glass and call it jewelry sheet, literally cars

Glen:

and creates incredible creations.

Glen:

She's done butterflies and dolphins and just on and on and on and

Glen:

on anything you can think of.

Glen:

She, she actually carves it out of sea glass and hearts and moons and on and on.

Glen:

That is Ann has been my most popular episode ever since

Glen:

I put it out on the air.

Glen:

And it's three years old now, I think, uh, it continues to be my

Glen:

number one, listened to episode.

Glen:

It's not my favorite.

Glen:

It's one of them.

Glen:

My favorite is one with a lady who again has become a very dear

Glen:

friend of mine over in Scotland.

Glen:

We met on one of my more recent trips.

Glen:

And she was, she wrote her debut novel.

Glen:

It took her 22 years to write this novel.

Glen:

She started writing it at a point when she was in a bad marriage.

Glen:

Uh, the marriage broke up.

Glen:

She took her baby son, infant son then moved away, started a new life.

Glen:

Uh, and over the years, went back to the book and wrote a bit, put it

Glen:

away, went back to it and back to it.

Glen:

And like, she was an incredible interview.

Glen:

She had such passion and such.

Glen:

It was.

Glen:

The most fun conversation I have ever had.

Glen:

I think in my life, the book is called dancing through fire and the

Glen:

lady's name is Catherine Alexandra.

Glen:

And that episode is a couple of years old.

Glen:

Now she has since gone through some more difficulties in her life, her

Glen:

husband has had a very debilitating injury illness and she went from.

Glen:

Having she self published this first novel, she started working on the

Glen:

second and then she sort of changed career goals again, and now runs a, uh,

Glen:

unique catering business in Scotland.

Glen:

So I keep bugging her about, well, you know, don't make me wait 22 more

Glen:

years for the next novel and her novel.

Glen:

It was about it's women's fiction.

Glen:

It's almost a romance novel, but not the type where the.

Glen:

The guy has flowing hair to his waist and muscles and all that kind of

Glen:

romance novel, but it was a romantic novel, I guess is the way to say it.

Glen:

And I read it on the recommendation of a mutual friend.

Glen:

It was not a book I would normally pick up and read and I fell in

Glen:

love with her writing style.

Glen:

She can write with such, she paints pictures with words,

Glen:

she's just an excellent writer.

Glen:

It's a shame.

Glen:

She isn't doing more writing.

Glen:

Um, but that is by far my favorite episode.

Glen:

And the one that I say, if you want to hear me at my best and one of my

Glen:

best interviews and one of the most fun and unique podcast episodes I've

Glen:

done, that's the one I point to.

Glen:

That sounds like

James:

a great one.

James:

I, you know, I have to ask you Glenn, because like, I don't know

James:

what I'm going to have another opportunity to speak with you again.

James:

Oh, we can chat anytime.

James:

How about a whiskey whiskey recommendation?

James:

Ah,

Glen:

well, okay.

Glen:

First of all, I am not, I've never been a drinker and when I have alcohol, I

Glen:

have liked, I tend to be a sweet drinker.

Glen:

I always liked Margarita's pina coladas.

Glen:

Although my, I won't bore you with a long story, but my first drink

Glen:

when I was 18 years old, was scotch offered to me by an Italian uncle.

Glen:

And I thought it tasted like kerosene.

Glen:

In fact, I poured it into a plant when he wasn't looking.

Glen:

And that was, that was scotch whiskey.

Glen:

But.

Glen:

My drinking whiskey started when I decided to go to Scotland and explore my heritage.

Glen:

Not that I'm not going to go to Scotland and go to a pub and not be able to

Glen:

have a DRAM of whiskey and enjoy it.

Glen:

So I, I asked, found friends that were whiskey drinkers and got their

Glen:

recommendations and started sampling it.

Glen:

And I'm still learning, but I'm very much of the space side.

Glen:

Region whiskey, which is a lighter, fruity or sweeter.

Glen:

If you will whiskeys, then I don't like heavily peated whiskeys.

Glen:

I don't like really smokey whiskeys and there were six or seven different regions

Glen:

of whiskeys around Scotland and they all have their own various characteristics.

Glen:

So Speyside is an area where the whiskeys tend to be lighter and a fruit ear

Glen:

is kind of the way they're described.

Glen:

My favorite of all of those is.

Glen:

Is a Glenmorangie whiskey and it's called nectar Dior.

Glen:

And I actually first sampled it at a pub in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

Glen:

During the balloon Fiesta, I was reading their whiskey list.

Glen:

I saw it read the description.

Glen:

It sounded great.

Glen:

And it has become my favorite whiskey.

Glen:

It's almost, if there is such a thing as almost a dessert whiskey,

Glen:

it's a very easy, very flavorful.

Glen:

Everyone that I've ever recommended it to really, really likes it.

Glen:

So I think it's a great whiskey for someone to start with.

Glen:

Absolutely.

Glen:

And it's still, it's still my favorite.

Glen:

So more and G Necker Dior.

Glen:

Thanks for entertaining my question.

Glen:

Sure.

Glen:

Let me, maybe we can have a conversation about that because there's

Glen:

bowel Vinnies that I'm a Caribbean cask that I particularly like.

Glen:

There's a Jura.

Glen:

That is a great whiskey.

Glen:

There's several of them out there.

Glen:

So we could do a whole thing on whiskey.

James:

That was going to say the same thing.

James:

That sounds like a whole other podcast episode there.

James:

Let me

Glen:

steer us back to your subject, to be honest, right?

James:

Yeah.

James:

That's actually a good point.

James:

Oh, there we go.

James:

I think we hit on our next concept here.

Glen:

Should we be doing a podcast about whiskey?

Glen:

Yeah, because then you get into the, you know, the, the scotch whiskey,

Glen:

which is malted barley, and then you have, you know, bourbon and, and corn

Glen:

and rye whiskey, and those kinds of things we make here in the States.

Glen:

And, and what's what's whiskey.

Glen:

Is it whiskey with an E or.

Glen:

Yeah.

Glen:

I mean, there's a whole podcast to be done right there.

Glen:

Well,

James:

let's talk about your podcast.

James:

I am curious to know what is it that you want people to get out of your podcast?

James:

Why should they listen, listen to your show?

Glen:

Well, they're probably not going to listen if they don't have an

Glen:

interest on some level in Scotland.

Glen:

Um, whether it's it's culture, it's people, whiskey,

Glen:

Tarkin music, or whatever.

Glen:

So that's kind of a prerequisite and that naturally keeps my audience.

Glen:

So I think to certainly keeps me from becoming, you know, having thousands

Glen:

and tens and tens and twenties and hundreds of thousands of listeners.

Glen:

Although there are several million Scott, diaspora, people of Scottish descent

Glen:

all around the world, the potential for a multimillion audience is out there,

Glen:

but I don't ever expect to achieve that.

Glen:

What I hope comes across in the podcast is my love for Scotland and my desire

Glen:

to share that with my listeners.

Glen:

And I hope that, you know, if they come to the podcast because they have

Glen:

an interest in Scotland, I hope they go away learning something like you

Glen:

mentioned, with the air escape, ponies.

Glen:

And I do cover, you know, literally bagpipes to whiskeys.

Glen:

We've done shows on bagpipes and on whiskey and on food and drink and on

Glen:

Parton and Harris, Tweed and music.

Glen:

And, um, you name it and I've probably done at least one episode on it.

Glen:

So I just hope people come to the show to learn something about Scotland.

Glen:

And when they leave, I hope they feel like they've learned something, you

Glen:

know, I hope they walk away knowing something or with a curiosity to go

Glen:

learn something further than what I've, I've, you know, opened their mind to

Glen:

looking at Scotland, maybe in a new light and taking away something from that.

Glen:

I'm not sure that was a very good answer, but Oh yeah, absolutely.

Glen:

It

James:

was.

James:

So, like we said before, you've been going at this for six years.

James:

Let's go six years in the future.

James:

What are, what are your hopes for your podcast?

Glen:

Um, I would hope that it's more consistent.

Glen:

I hope that I would hope that I could achieve a consistency.

Glen:

I'm trying to maintain.

Glen:

I was trying to maintain once every fortnight or every two weeks,

Glen:

but that's becoming problematic if I can do once a month.

Glen:

I think that might be the goal to target for, but I would hope that

Glen:

I would find some consistency.

Glen:

I'm quite happy with the production value with, with the podcast quality

Glen:

overall, the quality of guests.

Glen:

I hope I can just continue.

Glen:

I know there's there's material out there.

Glen:

There's certainly no shortage of topic and subjects about Scotland to talk about.

Glen:

And my ultimate goal honestly, is to.

Glen:

Is to immigrate and make my home in Scotland.

Glen:

There are a lot of reasons why that hasn't happened and may never happen.

Glen:

I don't know.

Glen:

Um, but I guess six years from now, if I had an ultimate wishlist, it would

Glen:

be that I would be doing my podcast from a small cottage somewhere up in

Glen:

the, in the Highlands of Scotland.

Glen:

Oh, that would be the base.

Glen:

That sounds really cool.

Glen:

Yeah.

Glen:

So one more

James:

question before I let you go, Glenn, what is the best experience that's

James:

happened as a result of your podcast?

Glen:

The absolute, no question.

Glen:

I did a podcast.

Glen:

I did an episode, a friend put me in touch with a mutual friend, put me

Glen:

in touch with her friend in Scotland who runs Blockness water, which is a

Glen:

bottled drinking water where the water literally comes from locked desk.

Glen:

And in doing that podcast, not only did I meet he and his partner and

Glen:

have they become good friends, but in doing that podcast and searching

Glen:

through their corporate website, they had done a corporate tartan and there

Glen:

was a bit on their website about the lady who designed their targets.

Glen:

It turns out she was a tartan designer, figure that out and.

Glen:

And as I read about her, I thought, wow, she would be an interesting

Glen:

interview for the podcast.

Glen:

So I got in touch.

Glen:

She agreed.

Glen:

She came on the podcast.

Glen:

We developed an immediate friendship a few months after I had had her

Glen:

on the episode, I was in Scotland.

Glen:

We made plans to meet.

Glen:

We met personally, I met her and her husband visited what was then her a small

Glen:

design studio, which was in basically what they call in Scotland, a shack.

Glen:

It was just an outbuilding office from their home.

Glen:

And immediately started up a relationship that resulted in

Glen:

her designing my very own part.

Glen:

And I have my own blend.

Glen:

More your tartan that is registered with the Scottish tartans authority.

Glen:

She has gone on to build quite a name for herself.

Glen:

She is, has opened.

Glen:

It has crowdfunded remodeling, an old farm standing that's on their property

Glen:

into what will be a fully integrated.

Glen:

Tartan weaving mill, but she's opened up a temporary location

Glen:

for the last few years now.

Glen:

So she not only designed, but I hadn't her weave and create my tartan for me.

Glen:

And that friendship that came from, from that purely accidental

Glen:

interview in an interview that I did for a different episode and,

Glen:

and stumbled upon her and her story.

Glen:

And the friends that we have become since then, that's clearly been

Glen:

the most and having my own tartan.

Glen:

And we're actually now, and I haven't released this anywhere else.

Glen:

So here's a little plug for you.

Glen:

We are actually designing a, a tartan for under the tartan sky.

Glen:

The podcast will eventually have its own officially registered target.

Glen:

So that relationship with her and her company and her family.

Glen:

That's been the most extraordinary thing.

Glen:

That's come from my podcast.

James:

That's wonderful.

James:

Glenn, please tell us where people can learn more about you and

Glen:

your podcast.

Glen:

Well, that's easy.

Glen:

I don't use a host.

Glen:

I, I have my own website for the podcast and host my episodes there.

Glen:

So simply go to the website, which is www dot under the Tarkin sky dot Scott.

Glen:

It's not a.com or a.net or.org.

Glen:

It's dot Scott.

Glen:

And strangely enough, a quick plug.

Glen:

I'm the U S global ambassador for Dodd Scott, which is a

Glen:

Scottish online registry.

Glen:

And so anyone with Scottish.

Glen:

Inclinations or affiliations or a level of Scotland, you can have a.scot website.

Glen:

And my site is it's under the Tarkin sky.

Glen:

Not Scott.

Glen:

There's a little bit of background there.

Glen:

All the podcast episodes are there for each episode, as you've probably seen.

Glen:

I also write a small, um, my show notes are more of a blog post that

Glen:

go into more detail about the show.

Glen:

And usually there were photographs since the show itself is audio only.

Glen:

There were photographs in the blog post that accompanies the, the episode

Glen:

so that people get a better sense of what the episode was all about.

Glen:

So, yeah, go to the website under the tartan sky dot Scott.

Glen:

I also have a Facebook page of the same name under the and sky dot Scott

Glen:

and a public Facebook page, a Glen in Scotland, where I share a lot of general

Glen:

information about Scotland as well.

Glen:

So those are three places, or you can find me on Twitter at blend Maurier one.

Glen:

And of course at under the tartan sky.

Glen:

So all those places and we're on Instagram, I'm on Instagram, too.

Glen:

Same thing.

Glen:

So Glen,

James:

I'd love to keep in touch with you and maybe catch up down the road

James:

six months or so maybe we can do another followup interview if that'd be all

Glen:

right with you, I would be happy to, I'm happy to chat with you anytime, James.

Glen:

And, uh, and I look forward to finding out more about your show and I'm going to.

Glen:

Definitely tune in to see this one, to see how you treat me, do this, hopefully, but

Glen:

one of the things I've done, uh, again, not to belabor the point is, is that my

Glen:

next episode, by the way, is with, uh, is an interview with a lady who's just

Glen:

launched a new podcast about Scotland.

Glen:

So I often interview other podcasters that are podcasting about Scotland because

Glen:

that's, what's relative to my audience.

Glen:

So I love sharing other podcasts, your stories just as you're doing.

Glen:

So I applaud you for what you're doing and I'm anxious to see how it develops.

Glen:

The name of the

James:

show is under the tartan sky.

James:

Glen, I could keep going with, yeah.

James:

I mean, this is a fantastic conversation.

James:

You've got so many wonderful stories with your podcast.

James:

I love the world that you immerse us in.

James:

Keep going.

James:

Um, you know, without a doubt you will, but I look forward to diving

James:

into some more of your episodes.

Glen:

Well, thank you.

Glen:

And as you can tell, I'm, I'm, uh, I have no shortage of words.

Glen:

So, uh, anytime you want to have another chat, that'd be happy to, I

Glen:

fear I'd keep you too long probably, but yes, we can go on and on and on.

Glen:

Get me talking about Scotland and I won't shut up.

James:

Thanks again.

James:

Glad I

Glen:

wish you all continued success.

Glen:

Thank you.

Glen:

And best of luck to you as well.

James:

Thanks again to Glenn.

James:

Check the show notes for links to learn more about him and his

James:

podcast "Under the Tartan Sky".

James:

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James:

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James:

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James:

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James:

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James:

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